Andrew Magrath (biggrumpy) wrote,
Andrew Magrath
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Gay's Marry? NO You Can't. A.K.A. Hate Peddler Allowed to give Invocation? Yes, You Can!

I expect I will revisit this issue when I am not mad and produce an argument why this is bad, but for now, please enjoy this rant!


About 2 min into the video.

Saying Jews get "married" is equivalent to saying incest is "marriage".

Saying African Americans getting "married" to whites is equivalent to saying pedophilia is "marriage".


If you say these types of things you are pretty much disqualified from the happy-go-lucky world of rational thought. You should not be given a forum, you should not be taken seriously, you should be looked upon with that special blend of shame and pity that I reserve for the type of people that say this kind of stuff. But apparently if you say that gays marrying is equivalent to incest or pedophilia or polygamy, that is not only okay, but it makes you a "moderate" AND qualifies you to speak at the most historic inauguration in, certainly recent, history BY INVITATION. Ohhh, and I assume here that this is the same polygamy specifically okay'ed (but also not okay'ed) and encouraged (but also not encouraged) by the Bible -- but I digress.

Obama allowing Rick Warren a prominent role in the inauguration is beyond shameful. Had Warren said any of the things he has said about the LGBT community about any other group in this nation, he would have been spurned (with good reason). But because he says things about gays and atheists (America's favorite groups to hate, revile, fear, & whip) it's okay! It's five-by-five. Obama's a freaking hero for reaching across the isle.

I'm all for bridge building. I don't think Obama should cut Rick Warner out of his life. Dialogue really does need to take place, in other areas Warner is only a little bat shit crazy. But you don't let his kind of hate give the invocation at the inauguration. This isn't an issue of a complicated spectrum. This isn't a "reasonable opinions vary" kind of thing: either you are for human rights or you are against them. People like Rick Warren are against the basic human right that you can marry whomever you consensually love. And if letting him speak at the "Here Comes the Hope Train", the "Gumdrop Rain and Puppy Dog Kisses", the "Change is A'coming to All you Folks" guy's inauguration is the only way you can reach out to a certain group, guess what -- that group isn't worth reaching out to.

Can somebody defend this crap? All the anonymous bloggers that commented on my livejournal when I was saying that the high probability that stuff like this was going to happen was exactly why Obama wasn't deserving of my vote, can you help me out with this one? Can I get one of your well reasoned, "don't throw your vote away" quips here? My Obamamaniac friends and all of his apologist, I need you now too.


All that being said, to all my liberal and gay friends out there that actually voted for Obama, WHAT THE HELL DID YOU EXPECT? I mean I love going to the Huffington Post and the liberal bloggosphere and reading the outrage and indignation about how Obama has abandoned the left and only reaches to the right to pick his cabinet, inner circle people and that if McCain was a third Bush term, Obama is really shaping up to be the third Clinton term. What did you expect? All you had to do is listen to any policy speech Obama put out and you learned, he is not a liberal. He is a centrist. He isn't an ideologue -- he's pragmatic. Pragmatists don't care what is morally right or morally wrong, they care about what is doable. If your rights need to be stepped on to achieve some victory (real or imagined) then you get stepped on. Remember when he was going to get out troops out of Iraq, but now it is our "combat troops" with a vaguely defined "security force" left behind for...ever? Remember when he was for public financing and then backed out because he could make a shit-ton of money that way? Remember when he was going to have the most transparent government in history, only to take about 3 questions a speech and have Rahm Emanuel clam up tighter than Dick Cheney on an extra-secretive day? Remember when the 4th Amendment was important, until the government listening in on your phone calls sounded like a pretty good idea? Remember when Change became Change™? Ohhh, remember how if you're gay and throwing you under the bus means maybe some hicks are gonna take a shinin' to O'bami, so they got thrown under the bus? Classic pragmatist! Classic Obama! As long as liberals vote for him becasue he has a big "D" next to his name, he's not going to put one of you in his cabinet! He's not going to care about your problems! Hell, you're lucky if he doesn't let a guy that literally puts you on the same level as pedophiles speak at his inauguration.

Way to NOT "throw your vote away".
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